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... or, "Aliens show up and the first casualty is characterisation"

Yes, it's logical that somebody, knowing what would happen to their children, would kill them rather than subject them to that. No, it's not logical that it's Frobisher. They're choosing children based on socio-economic class; a civil servant's children would not fall into that category. The PM should have known something would happen; you want an honest politician, you have to make sure he stays bought. Either he expected that outcome, in which case - yes, embarrassing person is now gone, but way to set things up so there's even more civil unrest over what's going to happen, or he didn't, in which case idiot plot.

The whole reason Ianto suddenly had a family in the designated bottom 10 percent is so that we could have characters we identified with when they came for the children, rather than it being random riot shots with people we don't know. I'm no accent expert, but I'd say Ianto's family sounds far more like Rhys than Ianto - , and something bad happening to Rhys would've hurt a lot more than something happening to a family Ianto seems to have tried to forget - but nothing really bad is happening to Gwen's family, is it?

(Ianto never codeswitches when he's with his sister. His accent never once approaches hers; everyone I know who's changed accents since their childhood will slip back into it when they feel comfortable. I've known people who *can't* switch accents, but Ianto had to have grown up talking like the people around him; that's just how accents work. So he's got two, but one he does not use even with the family that uses it. No.)

Jack's daughter would have volunteered - she's a lot like her dad. Jack's grandson may have volunteered. He should have had the chance. (Let's just completely avoid the MacGuffin of how we kill off, erm, just the aliens who are on Earth at the moment?)

And on the subject of killing them, who walks in with an ultimatum but no means of carrying it out?

Still think that the organisation that was after Jack was Torchwood One. TW 3 has been *rogue* ever since Jack took it over back at the millennium, though TW1 likely didn't realise it until after Canary Wharf, when they'd have been too disorganised to do anything but let Jack have more rope. Captain Johnson is the spiritual descendant of the Victorian Torchwood duo; Jack seems to have done her job at some point (not nearly so enthusiastically, though, given that for most of his time with TW, *he'd* have been seen as one of the dangerous aliens that should be shot on sight). Gwen had no clue, of course, but Ianto was part of the same TW that caused the Cyberman invasion; he should know that this is SOP.

(Though mad props to the costume department for making Alice's clothes subtly reminiscent of Jack's)